Julian and Jeremy get together to try to make sense of the current tumultuous state of Hollywood. With the actors joining the writers on strike, the pressure mounts for studios, who are currently going through an almost unprecedented streak of box office failures. It's not looking good out there folks! Which is why it was necessary to revive the "Agree or Disagree" segment of the show to really dive into the complexities of the situation. Meanwhile, DC Studios continues to try to steady the ship by announcing casting news for 'Superman: Legacy'. Surprisingly they've gone further than just announcing who will be playing Clark and Lois, and added character announcements for the likes of Guy Gardner, Hawk Girl and more. Unsurprisingly, this leads to some debate on the merits of James Gunn's recent decision making. On top of that, the guys discuss a grab-bag of movie topics to round out the show. All this and so much more on this week's episode of the Tower of Babble Podcast!

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Movies

DC
- ‘The Flash’ will cost WBD $200m. Considered the biggest flop in WB history.
- Ben Affleck’s Batman scene from ‘Aquaman 2’ has been cut from the latest version of the film in an effort to “ensure they don’t promise a movie universe that will not come to fruition” - THR
  - The film has gone through 3 rounds of reshoots and 2 cut Batmen. Test screenings have been mixed. According to THR, the film is now on a positive track after the last round of reshoots, sanctioned by Gunn.
- Casting news for ‘Superman: Legacy”
  - David Corenswet - Clark
  - Rachel Brosnahan - Lois
  - Anthony Carrigan - Metamorpho
  - Ed Gathegi - Mr Terrific
  - Nathan Fillion - Guy Gardner
  - Isabela Merced - Hawk Girl
Bob Iger has decided to stay on as CEO at Disney through 2026.
First look at ‘Deadpool 3’ and the yellow suit for Wolverine.
- Jennifer Garner will return as Electra.
Trailers:
- ‘Napoleon’
- ‘Kraven the Hunter’
Zack Snyder’s Star Wars movie pitch was shot down for being R-rated and lacking existing characters.
Sam Mendes has declined an offer to direct the next James Bond film.
Idril Elba said he is no longer interested in playing James Bond after racist fans turned him off the idea.
Chris Nolan is a fan of the ‘Fast and Furious’ series, according to Emily Blunt, who says, “you never hear him shit talk other people’s movies” - THR
James Cameron says a new ‘Alita’ is in the works.
Donald Glover will return for the ‘Community’ movie. Filming will begin next summer.
‘28 Years Later’ the potential third installment to the ‘28 Days Later’ franchise is back in the news as Alex Garland says he’s finished the script, Danny Boyl is interested in directing, and Cillian Murphy is down to return - Culture Crave
SAG goes on strike in solidarity with the writers. First time in over 60 years.
Warner Bros. Animation and Cartoon Network production workers launch unionization effort - THR
Barbenheimer road trip!

Agree or Disagree

Is risk aversion due to Wall Street involvement in Hollywood led us to where we are now? A thread: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1679977696498192387.html

What We’ve Been Watching

Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny
The Bear S2
Marvel’s Secret Invasion
Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning - Part 1

Jun 5, 2025

SSSW - Tales of the Underworld

Lucasfilm Animation has been hard at work on their next major project, 'Maul: Shadow Lord', but they've found the time to deliver another installment in their "Tales of" anthology series. The first ones covering the Jedi and the Empire, they now turn their focus towards the Underworld. However, be warned, this is a bit of a misnomer. Don't expect any crime syndicates or really any large scale criminality here. These 2 mini-arcs instead focus on Asajj Ventress (I know, not the first thing that comes to mind when someone mentions the Underworld) as she assists a young Jedi on the run from the Empire, and the origin story of Cad Bane. Which admittedly is closer in line with the criminal underworld concept, but is really more interested in telling a western style revenge story instead. All in all, despite the always great visuals and sound/music design, and few interesting ideas, there's not enough meat on the bone here to satisfy most viewers. But most disappointing is its failure to capitalize on the potential of the Underworld concept.

May 22, 2025

SSSW/ToB Film Club - Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

It's hard to believe that 'Rogue One' premiered nearly a decade ago. At the time, it was fairly well received, considered to be a decent first step into the standalone Star Wars movies, if not a bit messy. As the years passed, we learned more about the production. Gareth Edwards, who retained sole directing credit, was assisted by Tony Gilroy to "fix" the project. Tony went so far as to call it a "corpse" when he came aboard for rewrites and reshoots. It was Tony's inclusion that brought us some of the movies most memorable moments, and ultimately led him to leading the charge on 'Andor', a prequel project that flew under the radar as hits like 'The Mandalorian' hogged the spotlight. With 'Andor' now complete, considered by many to be a masterpiece in storytelling, not just in Star Wars but on television in general, now is the most appropriate time to reexamine the movie that spawned the Cassian-centered prequel series with fresh eyes. 'Andor', which leads directly into the events of 'Rogue One' recontextualizes much of the film, creating a unique viewing experience that pays off a multitude of threads that are brilliantly laid over the two seasons of 'Andor'. It takes the movie, which was already pretty good, and makes it great. Now existing as part of a whole that weaves a cohesive narrative from the nascent moments of the Rebellion all the way through to the destruction of the Death Star in 1977 (the seed that begat ALL Star Wars, and what we appropriately align our Star Wars BBY calendars to). It all feels wholistic and considered when viewed from the broader perspective - an accomplishment that should set a shining example of what Star Wars can and should aspire to.

May 15, 2025

SSSW - Andor S2 Finale

After only 4 weeks - the blink of an eye - it's all over. The best Star Wars story since the Original Trilogy has graced our screens and left us in awe. These final three episodes weren't able to reach the emotional highs of last week's arc, but that wasn't the goal. Instead, it provides time to look back at what brought us here, and sets the stage for the climax of the story to take place not in this moment, but within the now recontextualized film that birthed all of this in the first place, 'Rogue One'. And while the show may carry Cassian's name on the title screen, it's been the cast of characters we've met along the way that truly elevated this experience. Not to pick favourites, but in particular, Luthen and Kleya, who get an episode all to themselves this week are the standouts. And what an episode it was, as their story which shepherded much of the series came to an end, as we all expected it would have to. Embracing those feelings of closure, in the final moments of the series, as Cassian flies off into 'Rogue One', we are treated to our last glimpses of our heroes and villains. From Dedra to Vel and even Perrin, we are left to consider their fates as the story marches with inevitability into what begat all of this way back in 1977. Will we ever see Kleya, Vel, Wilmon, or Bix again? One can only hope - and rebellions? Well, they're built on hope.

May 9, 2025

SSSW - Andor S2 E7 - 9

When dealing in the world of prequels, it’s impossible to escape the inevitable - Anakin will fall, Han will win the Falcon, Cassian will die on Scarif. Somehow, in the midst of some of the most thrilling episodes of television ever put to screen, Tony Gilroy and his team found a way to address that impending doom and weaponize it against the audience to induce some of the most gut wrenching and heart breaking moments we’ve yet to see on ‘Andor’ - “There’s some place he needs to be”. At a larger scale, the show continues to outdo itself on a weekly basis, proving that the Star Wars galaxy provides a colour pallet of some of the richest hues from which to paint bold and personal stories. Proving you can go beyond the larger than life stories of heroics and grandeur to human stories of loss and pain and everything in between. That’s without mentioning the deft touch in pulling in themes that resonates with the contemporary while remaining timeless - a feeling that is a staple of Star Wars. Every detail is considered, every character is deep and interesting. There isn’t much more that can be said about such a powerful piece of art, except that not even the audience can escape the inevitable - only one week remains of this masterpiece.

Episode 187 - Hollywood Turmoil Paired With A New Superman

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