Tower of Babble Podcast

  • live
  • Listen
    • Tower of Babble
    • Small Screen Star Wars
  • Archive
    • Game of Thrones
    • Westworld
    • Watchmen
  • Subscribe
  • Donate
  • Contact
  • live
    • Tower of Babble
    • Small Screen Star Wars
    • Game of Thrones
    • Westworld
    • Watchmen
  • Subscribe
  • Donate
  • Contact

Blog

When not recording their podcast, the Tower of Babble Crew put pen to paper and put down their thoughts and opinions on some of the latest shows, movies and games for the ToB Blog.

  • All
  • Comics
  • Games
  • Misc
  • Movies
  • Podcast
  • TV
Bojack S4 3.jpg

Contemplating Cartoons - The Animated Dramedy

Julian Meush September 28, 2017

A few weeks ago I was sitting on my couch, credits rolling on the BoJack Horseman season 4 finale. As I watched the names scroll by and ignored the Netflix recommendation on what to watch next I came to a realization. One that even as I write about it now I’m unsure how to feel about. I realized that BoJack Horseman made me feel terrible. It’s not an easy feeling to describe. I know I laughed and enjoyed the ride but when it was over it left me feeling a little sad, morose or maybe even a little depressed. Let me put it this way, it’s like getting on a ride at a theme-park, having a blast, but as you walk off the ride, you get sick. You know you had fun, but you also know it was the ride that made you ill. To make matters worse, you find out that the theme-park intentionally designed it to make you sick and that it’s all “part of the experience”. How upset can you really be after having so much fun? I’m conflicted.

As I continued to sit staring blankly at the screen, pondering my existential crisis I came to another realization. This wasn’t something reserved for just BoJack, but another one of my favourite cartoons as well: Adult Swim’s Rick and Morty. Both shows are arguably the smartest and funniest shows on television right now and they’ve been exploring some deep themes. Self-loathing, loveless marriage, drug and alcohol abuse, depression and dementia are just a few of the many heavy ideas that these shows touch on. It’s all sprinkled in between moments of hilarious absurdity, but it’s clear that it’s become a core part of each series. It’s designed to be “part of the experience”.
 

Rick-and-Morty-Season-3 3.jpg

In this age of Peak TV, many a show can take me on an emotional rollercoaster, but there’s something about these two shows in particular that sticks out to me. Maybe it's that they aren’t billed as emotional explorations and adventures into one's psyche but instead the ads make them appear like fun, whimsical romps through wacko worlds.

Maybe it’s that I can’t just “shut off my brain” and ignore what the creators of these shows are trying to say. Many people use the TV as a way to zone out and just float through whatever they’re watching. A friend of mine watches Friends on repeat. It’s basically the only thing she watches, and it’s almost always on in the background. The mental effort it takes to “watch” a show like that is almost zero. Bojack and, Rick and Morty are so chock full of subtle references and jokes that they demand your full attention, only to have them drop these emotional bombs on you after you’re thoroughly engrossed.

Maybe it’s because we live in a world that’s more than a little messed up these days. I use TV and film to escape, so it hits that much harder when a show that I trust to make me laugh leaves me pondering my existence. It’s not even that these shows rely on being topical or even make an effort to reflect our modern world. Although they can and will. It’s that they use their social allegories to explore those core emotional throughlines further. In contrast, Southpark lives off of shining a light on current issues but rarely leaves me in a conflicted mental space. Matt Stone and Trey Parker are both geniuses in their own right, but Southpark doesn’t explore the depths of its characters; instead, it uses them as mirrors to reflect the issues of the real world.

After all this meditating, I think the answer to my crisis of conflict when it comes to these amazing shows is that I need to shift my expectations of them. These shows didn’t conform to my idea of what a cartoon should be and, as cartoons, they can examine difficult themes and ideas in ways many shows can’t. Yes, they are funny, witty and downright crazy at times but they aren’t JUST that.
 

rick-and-morty-season-3.jpg

So if these shows aren’t all about making me laugh but they also aren’t all about making me cry, what are they? The best way to describe them would be as a “dramedy” - an artistic work that blends elements of both comedy and drama.The term first became popular in the 90’s as sitcoms became more complex. Shows like Frasier or the previously mentioned Friends would often mix serious elements into their stories; the drama being used as a framing device for the situational comedy. The difference here is that we’re seeing it in animated form and although the concept isn’t new, animating it certainly is. Which explains why I was left flabbergasted after BoJack. I’m not used to feeling that way after watching animated programming.

It’s a testament to these shows that they can maintain their popularity without catering to the lowest common denominator. They are tackling complex themes framed inside crazy worlds with even crazier characters. It really shouldn’t be a surprise how well it works though. Especially with the likes of Dan Harmon, Justin Roiland, and Will Arnett involved. For years creators have struggled with trying to find ways of addressing these issues without alienating general audiences. It turns out that you just needed actual aliens and horse people to do it.
 


The Tower of Babble Blog features new posts every week. Look for more written content from myself touching on a variety of topics in the geek world.

InTV TagsBoJack Horseman, Rick and Morty, Dramedy, Animation, Friends
  • Blog
  • Older
  • Newer
Subscribe

Support the Show

Become a Patron!
Donate


REcent Episodes

Featured
Bonus Episode - ToB Film Club - Surviving Christmas (2004)
Dec 24, 2025
Bonus Episode - ToB Film Club - Surviving Christmas (2004)
Dec 24, 2025

Happy holidays ToB Fans! Completing a string of 3 straight publicly available Film Club episodes, commemorating the show's relaunch, we finish with our annual tradition of doing a Christmas movie for December. This year, with Matt joining the show it was his choice. He went with a movie from the mid-2000s that he's revisited time and again - 'Surviving Christmas'. A Ben Affleck vehicle that comes from a rocky era of his, just one year removed from 'Gili'. Fortunately, it features a strong supporting cast, with both Catherine O'Hara and the late James Gandolfini stealing the show and preventing this from being a complete disaster. Devoid of any type of strong holiday message, we spend much of the movie indulging Affleck's character's obnoxious desires, and despite some funny moments peppered throughout and a relatively strong third act, the tonal inconsistency and unlikability of the main character leave this movie mired in mediocrity. See you all again in 2026!

Read More →
Dec 24, 2025
Episode 202 - Could Things Be Worse?
Dec 17, 2025
Episode 202 - Could Things Be Worse?
Dec 17, 2025

It is often said we're living through "unprecedented times", and I must admit that it rings true when reading the news. Normally, we're fortunate enough to be discussing the frivolous world of entertainment - shielding us from much of the dower nature of the the modern world. Unfortunately, that does not mean we are immune - this week proves there's still plenty of bad news in the entertainment world to go around. And while we try to focus on the fun stuff, sometimes the bad stuff threatens things we love, like creators, and movie theatres, and therefor must be called out. As such, Matt and Julian spend the front half of the show talking about the Netflix/WB deal, and the Disney's investment in AI. Pick your poison on that one. However, stick around, as things take a turn back to the fun as the latest in film and tv news is covered, including discussions about a new '28 Years Later' movie, a new 'Men in Black', 'Kill Bill: The Whole Bloody Affair', and 'Stranger Things',. All this and so much more on this week's Tower of Babble Podcast!

Read More →
Dec 17, 2025
Bonus Episode - Warner Bros. Sales Chaos - Daily DVR
Dec 11, 2025
Bonus Episode - Warner Bros. Sales Chaos - Daily DVR
Dec 11, 2025

Julian joins Axel and Andy on The Daily DVR Podcast to wring out all the angst surrounding the impeding sale of Warner Bros. and their myriad of assets, including HBO, to Netflix. With Paramount still sniffing around this is far from done but all of it is far from good for fans of movies and TV.

Read More →
Dec 11, 2025
Bonus Episode - ToB Film Club - Dark City (1998)
Nov 28, 2025
Bonus Episode - ToB Film Club - Dark City (1998)
Nov 28, 2025

The term often used to describe the 1998 Alex Proyas film, 'Dark City' is "Proto-Matrix" given the many similarities between the two movies. Fair or not, they do have a lot in common but I think the comparison does a disservice to what is still a very clever and well made genre-film that largely holds up today (minus some questionable early CG effects). The 4K re-release gives it a fresh coat of paint, looking extremely sharp on modern televisions, accentuating the mostly dark and moody imagery of this sci-fi film noir, and given it's title this is all very fitting. Alex Proyas has some bid ideas here; what is the human soul? Are we the sum of our memories? Can memories be distilled into chemistry? Is love transcendent? Many of these themes are explored with depth, with answers to many of the films mysteries being laid bare in mostly satisfying way. Performances are strong, with everyone seemingly understanding the assignment, though there isn't much for the female characters to do here. Which is unfortunate as what we do get from Jennifer Connelly is intriguing, if lacking depth. On the whole, despite being pretty weird, this is still a very fun movie, if a bit silly at times, that was unfortunately overshadowed by the phenomenon that was 'The Matrix' dropping the following year.

Read More →
Nov 28, 2025

youtubetwitchfacebook-unauthtwitter-unauthapplepodcastspotify-unauthurl
  • About
  • Contact

Tower of Babble Podcast

We're a podcast network talking about the things you care about. Characters, places and events that aren't real... but are. Three friends chat about the goings on in geek news. Film and television are the focus with a variety of shows that also concentrate on gaming and comics.

, Winnipeg, Canada

youtubetwitchfacebook-unauthtwitter-unauthapplepodcastspotify-unauthurl
Creative Commons License
This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License. Google+